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 Any of these generic billings could have been for '''Doctor Who'''. However, we could not identify an uninterrupted 37 week run of generic billings like these that could have been '''Doctor Who'''. (It's possible '''Doctor Who''' aired in broken shorter runs, making identifying them even harder!)
-In the '''[http://gallifreybase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94238#8 BROADWCAST FORUM]''', "Duncan", who lived in [[Gibraltar]] in the late 1970s, says ''"after my first exposure to Tom Baker Who - so we must be talking between late 1978 and the start of 1980 - I was flicking through Moroccan TV and discovered Hartnell episodes dubbed into Arabic (sadly all I can recall is scenes inside the Tardis), and that marked by realisation that there was more to this show than I'd realised".''
+In the '''[https://gallifreybase.com/gb/threads/broadwcast-official-forum.94238/post-3981555 BROADWCAST FORUM]''', "Duncan", who lived in [[Gibraltar]] in the late 1970s, says ''"after my first exposure to Tom Baker Who - so we must be talking between late 1978 and the start of 1980 - I was flicking through Moroccan TV and discovered Hartnell episodes dubbed into Arabic (sadly all I can recall is scenes inside the Tardis), and that marked by realisation that there was more to this show than I'd realised".''
 This suggests that the Hartnell episodes may actually have aired much later than 1968, unless what "Duncan" recalls seeing were in fact repeats.

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 The television service was only for four hours per day (a third of which was in French), reaching only the two main cities of Casablanca and Rabat.
-Colour transmissions began in 1972 using the French [[Wikipedia:SECAM|SECAM]] colour broadcast system, although less than 3% of licence receivers were colour sets.
+Colour transmissions began in 1972 using the French [[Wikipedia:SECAM|SECAM]] colour broadcast system, although less than 3% of licenced receivers were colour sets.
 Television transmissions could also be received from [[Gibraltar]] and [[Italy]].
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 ==[[BBC Records]]==
 Morocco is named in the list of 27 countries in '''The Making of Doctor Who''' (1972 Piccolo edition).
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 As noted in '''DWM''' issue 444, the sale to Morocco was completed by '''6 May 1968'''.
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 ====Origin of the Prints?====
 [[Tunisia]] was the first [[Arabic]]-speaking country in North Africa to screen the series (in 1967), so it’s possible that Morocco was sent the same set of prints shortly after transmission in [[Tunisia]].
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 ==Transmission==
 ==TV listings==
 We have checked a number of newspapers (in French) from Casablanca and Rabat for 1967, 1968, 1969 and 1970, but few of them contained detailed or regular TV listings.
-What few listings they did have were often only the type of programme (e.g. '''"news"; "cartoons"; "religious programme"; "serial"; "documentary"; "film"; "children's programme"''') rather than by title.
+What few listings they did have often gave only the type of programme (e.g. '''"news"; "cartoons"; "religious programme"; "serial"; "documentary"; "film"; "children's programme"''') rather than by title.
 During the likely dates for when '''Doctor Who''' potentially aired (i.e. 1968 and 1969), there were TV listings that said '''"Télé-feuilleton"''' or '''"Télé-feuilleton en arabe"''' (which means "television series / in Arabic"); a generic listing for '''"Emission enfantine"''' ("Children's programme") in the 7.00 to 7.30pm slot; and a listing for '''"Emission medicale"''' ("Medical programme") at 7.15pm.
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 This suggests that the Hartnell episodes may actually have aired much later than 1968, unless what "Duncan" recalls seeing were in fact repeats.
-We did look at newspapers for the late 1970s / early 1980s, but like the 1960s listings, the published TV schedules were non-specific.
+We did look at newspapers for the late 1970s / early 1980s, but unlike the 1960s listings, the later TV schedules gave much more detailed billings, but we could not find any listings for '''Docteur Who'''.
 ====Fate of the Prints====
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 (A partial translation of the soundtrack of that episode can be read on the [[Arabic|ARABIC]] page.)

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 In '''DWM''', Morocco is named for a slightly different set of '''five''' story Archives: {{E}}, {{G}}, {{J}}, {{K}} and {{L}}, and dates than as being '''1968'''.
-As noted in '''DWM''' issue 444, the sale to Morocco was completed by '''"6 May 1968'''.
+As noted in '''DWM''' issue 444, the sale to Morocco was completed by '''6 May 1968'''.
 In mid-1970, while his first season was airing on TV in the UK, Jon Pertwee went to Morocco on holiday. Speaking with reporters on his return to the UK, he recalled an incident in which he was stopped by a Moroccan policeman, who waived him on, having recognised him as "Docteur Who".
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 [[Tunisia]] was the first [[Arabic]]-speaking country in North Africa to screen the series (in 1967), so it’s possible that Morocco was sent the same set of prints shortly after transmission in [[Tunisia]].
-But if [[Tunisia]] sent the seven stories it had to [[Iran]], then Morocco's prints would be a new set provided by the BBC.
+But if [[Tunisia]] sent the seven stories it had to [[Iran]], then Morocco's prints would be a new set provided by the BBC. Indeed, the existing film print of [[The Aztecs]] part four has a date on it which indicates the negative it was struck from was created in '''November 1967''', long after [[Tunisia]] would have already acquired and aired it.

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	====Origin of the Prints?====		====Origin of the Prints?====

−	[[Tunisia]] was the first [[Arabic]]-speaking country in ~~north~~ Africa to screen the series (in 1967), so it’s possible that Morocco was sent the same set of prints shortly after transmission in [[Tunisia]].	+	[[Tunisia]] was the first [[Arabic]]-speaking country in North Africa to screen the series (in 1967), so it’s possible that Morocco was sent the same set of prints shortly after transmission in [[Tunisia]].
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		+	But if [[Tunisia]] sent the seven stories it had to [[Iran]], then Morocco's prints would be a new set provided by the BBC.

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 ==[[BBC Records]]==
 '''The Seventies''' records a sale of '''"(3)"''' stories by 28 February 1977. '''The Handbook''', however, identifies '''5''': {{C}}, {{E}}, {{G}}, {{J}} and {{K}}.
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 As noted in '''DWM''' issue 444, the sale to Morocco was completed by '''"6 May 1968'''.
 In mid-1970, while his first season was airing on TV in the UK, Jon Pertwee went to Morocco on holiday. Speaking with reporters on his return to the UK, he recalled an incident in which he was stopped by a Moroccan policeman, who waived him on, having recognised him as "Docteur Who".
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 ====Origin of the Prints?====
-[[Tunisia]] was the first [[Arabic]]-speaking country in north Africa to screen the series (in 1967), so it’s possible that Morocco was sent the same set of prints shortly after transmission in Tunisia.
+[[Tunisia]] was the first [[Arabic]]-speaking country in north Africa to screen the series (in 1967), so it’s possible that Morocco was sent the same set of prints shortly after transmission in [[Tunisia]].
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 However, for the DVD release of [[The Aztecs]], which has an alternative language option for part four, the Arabic soundtrack came from a film print that was apparently recovered from Morocco. If so, then [[Saudi Arabia]]'s prints may have come from elsewhere...
-(A partial translation of that soundtrack of that episode can be read on the [[Arabic|ARABIC]] page.)
+Alternatively, Morocco sent its prints to [[Algeria]] in 1973, and those prints were subsequently returned to the BBC.

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 {| {{small-table}}
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-|'''Country Number (26)'''||1968||[[Selling Doctor Who|FIRST WAVE]]
+|'''Country Number (26?)'''||1968?||[[Selling Doctor Who|FIRST WAVE]]
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 |'''Region'''||[[:Category:Africa|Africa]]||
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 ==Television Stations / Channels==
-Morocco began its television service in March 1954. It was the first country in North Africa to establish a television service. The privately-owned station went bankrupt and stopped broadcasting in 1955. It was bought by the Moroccan government in 1960, becoming '''[[wikipedia: Société Nationale de Radiodiffusion et de Télévision|Radiodiffusion Télévision Marocaine (RTM)]]''' in January 1962 when transmissions recommenced.
+In March 1954, Morocco was the first country in North Africa to establish a television service. But the privately-owned station soon went bankrupt and stopped broadcasting in 1955. It was bought by the Moroccan government in 1960, becoming '''[[wikipedia: Société Nationale de Radiodiffusion et de Télévision|Radiodiffusion Télévision Marocaine (RTM)]]''' in January 1962 when transmissions recommenced.
-The television service was only for four hours per day (a third of which was in French), reaching mostly only the large cities in the north.
+The television service was only for four hours per day (a third of which was in French), reaching only the two main cities of Casablanca and Rabat.
-Colour transmissions began in 1972 using the French [[Wikipedia:SECAM|SECAM]] colour broadcast system, although less than 3% of licence receivers were colour sets!
+Colour transmissions began in 1972 using the French [[Wikipedia:SECAM|SECAM]] colour broadcast system, although less than 3% of licence receivers were colour sets.
-Television transmissions could also be received from [[Gibraltar]].
+Television transmissions could also be received from [[Gibraltar]] and [[Italy]].
 ==Language/s==
-The principal languages of Morocco are [[Arabic]] and French. Television was broadcast in both languages.
+The principal languages of Morocco are [[Arabic]] and French; '''RTM''' broadcast in both languages.
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 {{Arabic}}
-Morocco was the '''26th''' country to screen '''Al-Doctor Who'''; it was the '''second''' to broadcast the [[Arabic]] language versions (see [[Selling Doctor Who]]).
+Morocco was approximately the '''26th''' country to screen '''Doctor Who'''; it was the '''second''' to broadcast the [[Arabic]] language versions (see [[Selling Doctor Who]]).
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 In '''DWM''', Morocco is named for a slightly different set of '''five''' story Archives: {{E}}, {{G}}, {{J}}, {{K}} and {{L}}, and dates than as being '''1968'''.
-[[File:Moroc RT.JPG|right|thumb|350px|Moroccan Policeman anecdote - Radio Times 2 January 1971]]
+[[File:Moroc RT.JPG|right|thumb|250px|Pertwee's Moroccan Policeman anecdote - Radio Times 2 January 1971]]
 In mid-1970, while his first season was airing on TV in the UK, Jon Pertwee went to Morocco on holiday. Speaking with reporters on his return to the UK, he recalled an incident in which he was stopped by a Moroccan policeman, who waived him on, having recognised him as "Docteur Who".
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 The programme was supplied as 16mm black and white film prints with [[Arabic]] soundtracks.
 ====Origin of the Prints?====
-[[Tunisia]] was the previous [[Arabic]] speaking country in Africa to screen the series – a year earlier - so it’s possible that Morocco was sent the same set of prints shortly after transmission in Tunisia.
+[[Tunisia]] was the first [[Arabic]]-speaking country in north Africa to screen the series (in 1967), so it’s possible that Morocco was sent the same set of prints shortly after transmission in Tunisia.
 ==Transmission==
 ==TV listings==
-[[File:Moroc TV.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Generic TV listing 1969, L'Opinion - Doctor Who NOT included]]
+[[File:MoroccoTV1.JPG|right|thumb|250px|"Emission enfantine" at 17.45 - could this be Doctor Who?]]
-We have checked a number of newspapers (in French) from Casablanca, but few of them contained detailed or regular TV listings; what few listings they did have only gave the type of programme (e.g. '''"serial"; "documentary"; "film"''') rather than by title. ''Le Petit Marocain'' was missing the run of issues for July to December 1968; if the series aired more than once a week, then all 37 episodes could certainly have aired during this six month period.
+We have checked a number of newspapers (in French) from Casablanca and Rabat for 1967, 1968, 1969 and 1970, but few of them contained detailed or regular TV listings.
-During the likely dates when '''Doctor Who''' could have aired, there was a TV listing in the ''Petit Marocain'' that said '''"Télé-feuilleton en arabe"''', which means "television serial in Arabic", which may very well have been '''Doctor Who'''.
+What few listings they did have were often only the type of programme (e.g. '''"news"; "cartoons"; "religious programme"; "serial"; "documentary"; "film"; "children's programme"''') rather than by title.
-In the '''[http://gallifreybase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94238#8 BROADWCAST FORUM]''', "Duncan of Rassilon", who lived in [[Gibraltar]] in the late 1970s, says "after my first exposure to Tom Baker Who - so we must be talking between late 1978 and the start of 1980 - I was flicking through Moroccan TV and discovered Hartnell episodes dubbed into Arabic (sadly all I can recall is scenes inside the Tardis), and that marked by realisation that there was more to this show than I'd realised".
+During the likely dates for when '''Doctor Who''' potentially aired (i.e. 1968 and 1969), there were TV listings that said '''"Télé-feuilleton"''' or '''"Télé-feuilleton en arabe"''' (which means "television series / in Arabic"); a generic listing for '''"Emission enfantine"''' ("Children's programme") in the 7.00 to 7.30pm slot; and a listing for '''"Emission medicale"''' ("Medical programme") at 7.15pm.
 This suggests that the Hartnell episodes may actually have aired much later than 1968, unless what "Duncan" recalls seeing were in fact repeats.
-We are investigating this further...
+We did look at newspapers for the late 1970s / early 1980s, but like the 1960s listings, the published TV schedules were non-specific.
 ====Fate of the Prints====
-The next [[Arabic]] country to air '''Doctor Who''' in mid-1968 was [[Saudi Arabia]]. It is therefore possible that Morocco sent its prints of the [[Arabic]] dubbed Hartnell stories to [[Saudi Arabia]].
+The next [[Arabic]] country to purchase '''Doctor Who''' in 1968 was [[Saudi Arabia]]. It is therefore possible that Morocco sent its prints of the [[Arabic]] dubbed Hartnell stories to [[Saudi Arabia]].
-The DVD release for [[The Aztecs]] has an alternative language option for part four; this Arabic soundtrack came from a film print that was apparently recovered from Morocco. If that were the case, then [[Saudi Arabia]]'s prints may have come from elsewhere...
+However, for the DVD release of [[The Aztecs]], which has an alternative language option for part four, the Arabic soundtrack came from a film print that was apparently recovered from Morocco. If so, then [[Saudi Arabia]]'s prints may have come from elsewhere...
-(A partial translation of that soundtrack can be read on the [[Arabic|ARABIC]] page.)
+(A partial translation of that soundtrack of that episode can be read on the [[Arabic|ARABIC]] page.)

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	In mid-1970, while his first season was airing on TV in the UK, Jon Pertwee went to Morocco on holiday. Speaking with reporters on his return to the UK, he recalled an incident in which he was stopped by a Moroccan policeman, who waived him on, having recognised him as "Docteur Who".		In mid-1970, while his first season was airing on TV in the UK, Jon Pertwee went to Morocco on holiday. Speaking with reporters on his return to the UK, he recalled an incident in which he was stopped by a Moroccan policeman, who waived him on, having recognised him as "Docteur Who".

−	This anecdote first appeared in the 2-8 January 1971 issue of the ''Radio Times''; is repeated in the 1972 edition of ''The Making of Doctor Who'' (page 1); Peter Haining's book ''The Key to Time'' (page 102); and Pertwee's biography, ''I am the Doctor'' (but minus the policeman!, page 41). But it's clear that Pertwee was elaborating on this story somewhat, as his episodes never aired in Morocco; certainly not in 1970 - nor since! If there was any truth to the tale, then the policeman must have known who Pertwee was by some other ~~means~~.	+	This anecdote first appeared in the 2-8 January 1971 issue of the ''Radio Times''; is repeated in the 1972 edition of ''The Making of Doctor Who'' (page 1); Peter Haining's book ''The Key to Time'' (page 102); and Pertwee's biography, ''I am the Doctor'' (but minus the policeman!, page 41). But it's clear that Pertwee was elaborating on this story somewhat, as his episodes never aired in Morocco; certainly not in 1970 - nor since! If there was any truth to the tale, then the policeman must have known who Pertwee was by some means other than from local television broadcasts.

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	[[File:Moroc RT.JPG\|right\|thumb\|350px\|Moroccan Policeman anecdote - Radio Times 2 January 1971]]		[[File:Moroc RT.JPG\|right\|thumb\|350px\|Moroccan Policeman anecdote - Radio Times 2 January 1971]]
−	In mid-1970, while his first season was airing on TV in the UK, Jon Pertwee went to Morocco on holiday. Speaking with reporters on his return to the UK, he recalled an incident in which he was stopped by a Moroccan policeman, who waived him on, having recognised him as "Docteur Who". (This anecdote first appeared in the 2-8 January 1971 issue of the ''Radio Times''; is repeated in the 1972 edition of ''The Making of Doctor Who'' (page 1); Peter Haining's book ''The Key to Time'' (page 102); and Pertwee's biography, ''I am the Doctor'' (but minus the policeman!, page 41). But it's clear that Pertwee was elaborating on this story somewhat, as his episodes never aired in Morocco; certainly not in 1970 - nor since! If there was any truth to the tale, then the policeman must have known who Pertwee was by some other means.	+	In mid-1970, while his first season was airing on TV in the UK, Jon Pertwee went to Morocco on holiday. Speaking with reporters on his return to the UK, he recalled an incident in which he was stopped by a Moroccan policeman, who waived him on, having recognised him as "Docteur Who".
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		+	This anecdote first appeared in the 2-8 January 1971 issue of the ''Radio Times''; is repeated in the 1972 edition of ''The Making of Doctor Who'' (page 1); Peter Haining's book ''The Key to Time'' (page 102); and Pertwee's biography, ''I am the Doctor'' (but minus the policeman!, page 41). But it's clear that Pertwee was elaborating on this story somewhat, as his episodes never aired in Morocco; certainly not in 1970 - nor since! If there was any truth to the tale, then the policeman must have known who Pertwee was by some other means.